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Re: 18: Talking with Jeremy Miller about Alt.Net

Nate Kohari — Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:36:22 -0000

@Bailey: I think you mean "kanban" ... it's a lightweight process based on ideas from the Toyota Production System. There are some good resources on the web about its application to software. And, if you want an example of a kanban board, you can check out Zen, which is our web-based project management system geared around kanban. </shameless_plug> :)

Re: 18: Talking with Jeremy Miller about Alt.Net

Bailey Ling — Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:24:43 -0000

Hi guys,
At the end of the podcast Jeremy mentioned switching away from XP. I'm hearing it as "con von", but I can't find any information on it. Can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks.

Re: 18: Talking with Jeremy Miller about Alt.Net

Nobleshield — Thu, 14 May 2009 19:30:33 -0000

IMO the whole problem with Alt.net is that there are far too many "Morts" out there who LIKE the whole RAD, wizard-driven, drag-and-drop databinding stuff from Microsoft. Remember, the key goal is to deliver working software; all this talk of craftmanship is very nice, but in the end it doesn't matter to the majority of developers and businesspeople.. all they care about is getting their stuff done.

That said I'm greatly interested in Alt.net despite being what amounts to entry-level/junior-level as far as being a programmer, and all of this stuff greatly intrigues me, I just don't think that it should be an evangelical movement.

I wrote more of this on my blog: http://blog.waynemolina.com

Re: 18: Talking with Jeremy Miller about Alt.Net

Dave — Fri, 01 May 2009 13:25:29 -0000

>> To be fair, we've gotten 18 episodes in before addressing the "What is Alt.NET?" question

You got only 16 episodes in before the two wankers.

Perhaps I do sound like a troll but this is honest feedback. I do question the wisdom of publishing these two self absorbed podcasts that had basically nothing to offer outside of the alt.net clique. If I wanted to stay out of alt.net forever, I could have my CTO listen to these two podcasts...

Re: 18: Talking with Jeremy Miller about Alt.Net

Mike Moore — Fri, 01 May 2009 11:05:18 -0000

Hi Dave, thanks for your comment. To be fair, we've gotten 18 episodes in before addressing the "What is Alt.NET?" question, even though this is a hotly discussed topic and generally the very first thing newcomers ask. This was intentional. I decided the best way to explain what Alt.NET is was to show it, and that's what we've tried to do.

I also tried to make each episode accessible to newcomers while still remaining entertaining for those familiar with the subject at hand. This isn't always easy. If you have a better way then perhaps you should contact James about hosting a few episodes instead of sounding like a troll.

Re: 18: Talking with Jeremy Miller about Alt.Net

Dave — Fri, 01 May 2009 10:50:08 -0000

Have you done enough navel gazing already? This is not advocacy but plain drivel. All of this self-introspective, self-mastabatory crap needs to stop.

Are you planning to produce podcasts about Alt.Net products instead of just about Alt.Net again?

How about a series of shows on the SOLID principles, with a good five minute introduction of the principle of the week and then a real discussion of Alt.Net products that apply well in this space along with WHY.

I think that the WHY part will be the hardest for you guys -- you will need to put yourself into a newbies shoes and really explain why things would be better instead of the 'pat on the back', 'wink-wink, nudge-nudge' club you seem to be right now. In most of the podcasts you skip over defining anything that may be new to a newbie and love your acronymns -- eg IoA, CI server, etc.

Re: 18: Talking with Jeremy Miller about Alt.Net

PandaWood — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:14:39 -0000

Thank you for talking to someone with a sense reality this time. Hail Jeremy.

Re: 18: Talking with Jeremy Miller about Alt.Net

Jay Smith — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 15:17:53 -0000

I completely agree with Jeremy here. I like the foundations of the Alt .Net mindset, focus on our software engineering skills not just slapping things together. But have avoided the ALT .NET title since it has been perceived as negative. It is refreshing to hear I am not alone in that view point.

Jeremy well said my friend, well said.

Re: 18: Talking with Jeremy Miller about Alt.Net

javery — Wed, 08 Apr 2009 09:31:05 -0000

Chad - Fixed! :)

Re: 18: Talking with Jeremy Miller about Alt.Net

Chad Myers — Tue, 07 Apr 2009 22:27:46 -0000

Chad Meyers' Oxite Post is almost as good as Chad Myers' (me) post on it, but not quite :)

Re: 18: Talking with Jeremy Miller about Alt.Net

Rob Conery — Tue, 07 Apr 2009 22:00:45 -0000

I like that Jeremy admitted his love for Phil Haack - FINALLY!

Re: 18: Talking with Jeremy Miller about Alt.Net

Mike Moore — Tue, 07 Apr 2009 10:00:36 -0000

I really liked Jeremy's point that the Alt.NET approach is really the mainstream in other communities like Java and Ruby and Python.